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Peter Parker of Earth-616 ([personal profile] spectacularluck) wrote in [community profile] auroraexpress2019-11-05 01:20 pm

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Who: Everyone
When: Day 45, early afternoon
Where: Everywhere

[ You've had your time to exchange candy and spooky stories, and the game has come to an end! Everyone who took part received a bag of candy to take to their train, as a bonus reward for the entertainment. Shortly before the game setting can fade away, Finn's going to declare the winners:

Thyme, Senna, Jasmine, and Clover ]

Aaand that's a wrap. With any luck, you guys had some actual fun. Don't forget to brush your teeth and, huh ... enjoy the candy?
schrodingerscockroach: (I just need.....)

[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2019-11-06 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
[He didn't project a lot of reactions.]

[But god, could he feel them.]

[And he wants to run, shut down, just get away from everything and...and....]

[He doesn't know.]

[He stares at her hand because he wants to pull away, he wants to take it, he wants-he wants-]

Hot...hot chocolate? Right? [Sounds very distracted. Because he's trying to remain present and its real hard.]
bluediligence: (Called in the bees to crowd out caring.)

[personal profile] bluediligence 2019-11-06 07:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Right. Hot chocolate. The real stuff, you know? [ She edges her hand slowly, slowly forward, until the tips of their fingers are touching. ] With whipped cream and some strawberries on the side.

We could make it together, Dusk.
schrodingerscockroach: (Piece by piece)

[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2019-11-06 07:08 pm (UTC)(link)
[He doesn't pull away, at least.]

Make...yeah. Yeah, making something... [Gives him something to do, to focus on instead of memories.]

[Standing up and heading for the kitchen.]
bluediligence: (Part of recovery is addressing pain.)

[personal profile] bluediligence 2019-11-06 07:12 pm (UTC)(link)
... Yeah.

[ She walks along with him, concerned by the daze but not willing to push too hard, too fast. He can talk about it if he wants to, when he's ready to. ]

And then we can go find sunset.

[ Sets out the chocolate. ]
schrodingerscockroach: (Exhausted)

[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2019-11-06 07:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Hm.

[He's unsure if the cat will help this feeling, but for now, he's focusing on the hot chocolate. Getting out some milk and a pot to heat it all in. It means he needs to focus, don't want it to foam over.]
bluediligence: (Better than a criminal go free.)

[personal profile] bluediligence 2019-11-06 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Mm.

[ Chops the chocolate as fine as she can, mindful not to slip with the sharp knife. ]

We could talk. Or not, it's up to you; I'm here for you either way.
schrodingerscockroach: (Desperate worry)

[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2019-11-06 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
[He doesn't answer right away, focused on the milk.]

I don't know yet.

[He really, really doesn't want to. But Faito has always been a comforting presence and he knows he technically should.]
bluediligence: (It must be heartbreaking.)

[personal profile] bluediligence 2019-11-06 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
That's okay.

[ She offers him a small smile, whether or not he glances her way at all. ]

Whatever's best for you.

[ Pushing someone to talk when they're not ready seems like a bad idea in her book. Goodness knows she wouldn't take it well. ]
schrodingerscockroach: (but maybe good)

[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2019-11-06 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
[He wants to say burying it forever and a day is best for him, but yeah, he knows that's bullshit. It's easier.]

[It's a lot easier.]

[But he's talked to enough people who don't deal with their shit to know that's not what's going to be right for him in the long run.]

Yeah.

You know, I have no idea what to make of Church. Or Epsilon, I guess? He sounds like Church and Caboose acted like Epsilon and Church were the same, but it was also Caboose saying that....

[Let's talk about Church being weird, that's safe.]
bluediligence: (The answer is "cuz I say so".)

[personal profile] bluediligence 2019-11-06 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Everyone copes and deals differently, but ... yeah, maybe actually dealing, eventually, is better than burying it until you don't feel anymore. ]

[ Maybe. ]

To be fair, it's hard to know what to make of any of your friends.

[ And him. Kind of. ]
schrodingerscockroach: (.....SIGH)

[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2019-11-06 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
True. They're a very odd group of people. But honestly, I was starting to think Church was a ghost and now there's an AI with his voice and like....is that him. Is that not him.

Was the one people called Church actually a ghost who died having an AI made from him.

It could be either and I'd believe it.
bluediligence: (Complicated drama has drawn you here.)

[personal profile] bluediligence 2019-11-06 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Can AI have brothers? Maybe it's a twin.

[ #gosholife ]
schrodingerscockroach: (...what)

[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2019-11-06 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
....well, Theta and Delta did say they had siblings.

Now what that means, I don't know. Maybe the same lead scientist. Or maybe they used the same person's flashclone? Or sibling flashclones? Intelligence can be genetic, so siblings could all in theory be smart enough.

[Actually, does this mean Church IS connected to Project Freelancer? Are the Reds and Blues?]
bluediligence: (It's not just a job now.)

[personal profile] bluediligence 2019-11-06 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I ... guess ...

Maybe they were both made from the same clone? Maybe? That could account for why they sound the same.
schrodingerscockroach: (Too many cats to hold)

[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2019-11-06 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
The same clone is...unlikely.

Smart AI's need to copy a human mind to be created. But being able to take that deep a copy kills the brain. Flash clones can be used to do it, though it's a toss up if an AI is created that way. It's why Smart AI's are limited, that gets really ethically questionable really fast.

So just more likely the same person cloned.
bluediligence: (Be prepared for me to accuse you.)

[personal profile] bluediligence 2019-11-06 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait, but ... if being copied like that kills the brain, how would they get two flash clones to begin with?
schrodingerscockroach: (Tired)

[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2019-11-06 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Flash cloning is the process of making a clone and accelerating the age to be similar of the original human. It was a process developed for organ transplants, but it works with a whole human. With...obvious flaws.

Their cells aren't stable and most clones would die within a year due to health issues and how much they actually develop is up in the air. The clones do retain memories and some personality traits, but stuff like motor functions and communication suffer.

One human can be cloned multiple times. And then it's the clone's brain that's sacrificed for the AI. But making a person so they might make a successful AI is also... [Pretty horrible.]
bluediligence: (An impartial seeker of truth.)

[personal profile] bluediligence 2019-11-08 07:35 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Urk ]

And ... and all of this is legal? [ How is any of this legal? ]
schrodingerscockroach: (Exhausted)

[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2019-11-08 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
More the timing meant they didn't make it entirely illegal.

An AI is an extremely powerful tool. But the only way to truly ethically make it was to be ready when someone died and used their brain, but between knowing it's coming to have the timing right, and needing someone smart enough to make an AI that could perform well, and how a dead brain is still kind of a tricky thing, it was an unreliable method to go about it.

And unreliable wasn't something we could risk. Not when entire planets of people were dying. Then it just becomes a numbers game.

Do we let countless lives die because we don't have the tools...

Or do we take the clones from someone who volunteered for this. Since they have things from the original and they don't have time to really divert, the consent is kind of quasi given for the clone. And they were going to die in a year living miserably anyway.

It's not a good thing to do, but it's by far the lesser evil.
bluediligence: (I'm glad you stopped it.)

[personal profile] bluediligence 2019-11-10 03:08 pm (UTC)(link)
... Hm. I guess it's one of those situations where there's no "good" answer.

[ She still doesn't like the sound of it at all. But ... well. People want to survive, and have a right to fight for their lives. ]

[ Slides over the chopping board of finely chopped chocolate. ]
schrodingerscockroach: (Why bother)

[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2019-11-16 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah. When faced with extinction, all other option is preferable. But preferable doesn't mean we like it.

[Going to mix in the chocolate to let it all melt with the milk.]

Project Freelancer was all about shoving one person into anothers head. There were side effects, risks, left over damage...not something a person would agree with normally.

And our Project wasn't the only one taking risks like that.

But we agreed because we knew the alternative. At least, that's what I would think I did. I was real big on not letting people die if I could do something.

[At least earlier on. Chorus...maybe not so much.]
bluediligence: (If the devil himself gives you a lift ..)

[personal profile] bluediligence 2019-11-17 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
That sounds about right for you…? I mean … we don't remember each other yet, and we've only known each other for a few days, really. But you seem like the kind of guy who, when you've decided that you're going to help someone, you'll do everything within your power.

[ Which is why that last memory was so damn jarring. ]
schrodingerscockroach: (Tired)

[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2019-11-17 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I like to think I'm that kind of person, yeah.

[And it does make that really jarring.]

I mean, gonna start something, should finish it. Especially when people are depending on you.
bluediligence: (My best friend Sherloaf Holmes...)

[personal profile] bluediligence 2019-11-20 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Nod, nod! She agrees with all of that. ]

Definitely. I guess ... I don't know. Everyone has off days? [ That's putting it so lightly though. ]
schrodingerscockroach: (I just need.....)

[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2019-12-14 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
....yeah, sometimes.

But that didn't....that wasn't....

[His hands are shaking and he's going to step to the side and gestures for her to take over mixing chocolate and milk because he's not sure what he's gonna do with it.]

Fuck. Just...fuck.

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